Thursday, March 6, 2014

Leonard Sims I think this is our John H. Sims brother.

This is the 1900 Census for Marshall county Alabama from familysearch.org  They have free census records you can copy and save to your records.                          

John H. Sims and Catherine Key Wedding certificate from family search


Ella Suldra Sims

Ella Suldra Sims (daughter of John H. Sims and Catherine Key) was born 01 Sep 1897 in Eagle Point, Haskell co. Ok., and died 24 Apr 1968 in Old Panther cemetery, McCurtain, Ok.. She married Claud Lendo Ervin Bray on 24 Aug 1913 in Rocky Point, Haskell co. Ok., son of John Randolph Bray and Lillian Jean Jordan.

John H. Sims

John H. Sims aka John W. Sims  He went by both names altho his marriage certificate has him as John H. Sims.

John and Catherine Key Sims on the 1900 Indian Territory Censu



Correspondence with Leads


Correspondence with leads

osted by: Jill Lewis (ID *****8447)Date: June 14, 2004 at 11:36:08
In Reply to: Re: Leonard Sims b.1790-1800 of Georgia by Patricia A. Dayley of 6811 

Patricia, I believe the parents of Leonard Sims that is in Marshall Co., AL are Reddick P. Sims and Sarah Ann Stansell. They were married in Newton Co., GA Aug. 5, 1845, in the DeKalb Co., GA in the 1850 census, then moved to AL and show up in Talladega Co in the 1860 census. I haven't been able to find them in the 1870 census, but in the 1880 census they are in DeKalb Co., AL. I cannot prove that the Leonard in Marshall Co. AL is Reddick and Sarah's son, but in 1860 they do have a child listed as "Len" 3 yrs. old. I am a descendant of Reddick and Sarah's son named Thomas J. Sims. Hope this is helpful. Jill Lewis

osted by: Jill Lewis (ID *****8447)Date: June 17, 2004 at 14:30:17
In Reply to: Re: Leonard Sims b.1790-1800 of Georgia by Patricia A. Dayley of 6811 

Patricia, If the Leonard in Marshall Co., is the son of Reddick P. Sims (and I don't know for sure, he is just the right age and so I think it is possible), Reddick had a son named John, but I think his middle initial was R. He shows up in the 1850 and 1860 census with Reddick. I haven't been able to find Reddick in 1870. The other children of Reddick and Sarah Sims were: Bennett M. (moved to Texas before 1900), Mary who married Willie Barclay and is buried near her parents in Jackson Co., AL), Margaret Sarah, Mattie who married David Reece (moved to OK), Elizabeth A. who married J.C. Reece (moved to TX) and Thomas J. who married Candace Culpepper (also moved to TX). Let me know if you figure out whether the Leonard in Marshall Co. is Reddick's son. There are several Leonard Sims. Jill Lewis

This is not my Len and John.  John is 10 years older than my John Sims.  They were born Georgia  Ours were born Alabama.  Not ours.  I checked it out on the 1860 Census for Alabama.  He is listed as R.P. Sims with Sarah as his wife.  This is a good reason to do lots of research.  So close but not it.  

 

Wednesday, March 5, 2014


Father: John H. Sims b: May 1857 in , , Alabama, Usa 
Mother: Catherine Key b: Nov 1863 in , , Alabama, Usa

Marriage 1 Thomas Henry Patton b: 23 Mar 1886 in Harrison, Boone, Arkansas, Usa
  • Married: 7 Nov 1909 in Lequire, Haskell, Oklahoma, Usa
Children
  1. Has Children John Wesley Patton b: 2 Oct 1910 in Diamond, Haskell, Oklahoma, Usa
  2. Has Children Maudie Patton b: 9 Sep 1913 in Lequire, Haskell, Oklahoma, Usa
  3. Has No Children Ralph Patton b: 9 Mar 1914/1915 in Lequire, Haskell, Oklahoma, Usa

Where was John H Sims in 1870?

The first census I have found for my John H. Sims is the 1900 Census for Indian Territory, Haskell County.

Here is some of the info found on that census for John Sims.

born May 1860
Place Alabama
Father born Alabama
Mother born Alabama 

Married 19 Jan 1885 Place married Guntersville, Marshall County Alabama 

Spouse is Catherine Female born Nov 1863 Place born Alabama, USA
    Catherine's maiden name was Key d/o Ellen Key 

Children:
1.  Joe Anna Sims Female born Apr 1888 Place born Alabama

2.  William Samuel Sims Male born  Apr 1890  Place born  Alabama
his birthday is the 11th of April (not found on census)

3.  Bertha Jane Sims  Female born Nov 1893 Place born Rocky Point, Indian Territory, USA

4.  Lizzie Sims Female born Feb 1895 Place born Indian Territory, Oklahoma, USA  Her birthdate is 1 Feb 1895.

5.  Ella Suldra Sims Female born Sep 1897 Place born Rocky Point, Haskell, Indian Territory, USA  Her birthdate was 1 Sep 1897 

6.  Lester Sims Male born May 1900 Place born Indian Territory.



Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Mary Francis Key Redden is the sister of
Catherine Key and the d/o Ellen Key
John Edmund Sims and wife Marjie.  He is the grandson of John H Sims and Catherine Key Sims.

John Edmund Sims

John Edmund Sims
Ella SimsElla Suldra Sims (daughter of John H. Sims and Catherine Key) was born 01 Sep 1897 in Eagle Point, Haskell co. Ok., and died 24 Apr 1968 in Old Panther cemetery, McCurtain, Ok.. She married Claud Lendo Ervin Bray on 24 Aug 1913 in Rocky Point, Haskell co. Ok., son of John Randolph Bray and Lillian Jean Jordan.

Jim Key s/o Eleanor Key

Jim Key s/o Eleanor Key

Bill Sims and Fish Wilson

Bill Sims is on the right.

More old photos

Arminda Key d/o Eleanor Key I think.

Redden/Key

This is the husband of Mary Francis Key.

Some old photos

Josie Sims oldest daughter of John Sims and Catherine Key.

Josie is aka Joe Anna Sims born Alabama.


Sims Colony Info



Giles County, Tennessee TNGenWeb
1809 Elk River Intruders


The Cherokee Land Session of 1806 resulted in a rash of new settlements in the newly-ceded territory, which included much of present-day Giles County, but continued to exclude most of the southwest quadrant still untreated with the Chickasaw. Nevertheless, many of the settlers were westward of the Congressional Reservation Line, resulting in a number of clashes between soldiers and settlers, the latter known as Intruders. (1)

Although the following is a compiled list and does not specify the settlement, a variety of records document that at least some of these men had settled in what would become Giles county rather than Alabama. Other sources (2) indicate that the first round-up by soldiers in 1809 netted 166 settlers, of whom 93 were from the Simms Settlement. As can be seen from the list that follows, a number of Giles countians were among those corraled by Meigs' soldiers, although many other intruders were not rounded up (estimated at 2,250 by Simms' Settlemeent petitioners in 1810). By September of the following year, at least 49 of the original Simms settlers, including five widows, had returned when 466 men and women petitioned the President to permit them to remain on their improvements pending the signing of a treaty with the Chickasaws (See 1810 Simms'es Settlement Petition)

Many of these names and those on the 1810 Elk River Intruder Petition are also on the 1812 Giles county tax list, and a sampling has been indicated by the use of the symbol  after the name.






Intruders List, 1809
(List of those removed from Chickasaw Indian Lands)
Ref: Record Group 75, Cherokee Indian Agency, Tennessee Records, National Archives)

Wm. Adams†
Wm. Allen
Wm. Arborugh
W. Ar[?]
J. Ball
James Ball
Wm. Barlet
Wm. Beard
Wm. Bell
Jno Black
Wm Black
Wm. Blair
Wm. Bolen
Wm. Bradley Jr. Wido.
Wm . Bradley Sr. Wido
Joseph Branson
Abraham Brown†
George Brown Jr.
George. Brown Sr.†
Wm. Bullman
James Burleson
Jos. Burleson
Wm. Cale
Wm. Carnahan
Wm. Cavet
Jno. Cipler
Lovel Coffin
Wm. Cogrey
Thomas Colburn
Wm. Colton
Wm. Combs
Wm. Conner
Wm. Cook
Wm. Cooper
Thomas Copeland
Wm. Coplin
Andrew Coppin
Wm. Cowan
Jonathan Cuchn
Wm. Cummins
Edw. Davis †
Wm. Devan
Francis Doherty†
Rolla Dotson †
Obadiah Driscal
Thomas Dodd ††
Wm. Ellis
Wm. Erwood
Joseph Evans
Larkin Everet
Edmond Evers
Wm. Fearle
Jane Ford
Wm. Freeman
E. Frost
Simon Foy ††
Wm. Gamer
Wm. Gibbons
Isaac Gipson
John Wm. Gray
Wm. Greehaws Jnr.
Wm. Greene
Anne Greene Wido.
Wm. Greenehaws
David Greer
Wm. Grissam
Lum Hanks
Geo. Harper
Wm. Hatton Wido.
Wm. Hawkins
Wm. Hays
Wm. Henry
Wm. Hicklen
James Hodge
Jno. Hoge
James Hood
Wm. Hood Jr.
Wm. Hood Sr.
Wm. Hornbeck
Wm. Horton
Wm. Howard
Wm. Isham
Andrew Jackson 

Thomas Jenkins
Wm. Jonakin
Luck Kile
Wm. Kile †
Jno. Kine
Wm Lackey
John Lauls
Wm. Leagg
Wm. Leaggs
Wm. Lipum
Clab. Lovet
Joseph Maple †
Wm. Massey
Jno Mayhers
James McCarey
Asa McGee
Roland McKenney†
Wm. McMahon
Henry Milley
Wm. Mitchel
Jno. Manasco
Alen Moore
Amos Moore
Henry Morgan
Wm. Moss
Wm. Mullen
Wm. Murphy
Benjamin Murrel
Wm Myers
James Neil
Presly Norman
David Norris Wido.
Michael O'Donnce
Genj. Osborn
Jno. Payne †
Wm. Payne †
Wm. Perkins
Isaac Perret
James Perret
Wm. Piall
Wm. Poor
Lum Prist
James Radish
Thomas Radish
Wm. Radish
Wm. Rare
Wm. Rare
Wido. Raudon
Wm. Reevs
James Reynolds
Jno. Reynolds
Reubin Riggs †
Wm. Roberson
James Robertson
Wm. Robertson
Wm. Rogers
Wido. Roland
John. Sellon
Wm. Sim's
Eliza Sims
James Sims
Keziah Sims Wido.
Mathew Smith
Wm. Smith
Robert Stewart
Jno. Sulliven
Wm. Thresher
Archibald Trimble
Wm. Trimble
Cavin Twitty
James Twitty
Jno. Wainwright
Wm Waters
Larkin Webb†
Wm. Wilburn
Charles Williams
Charles Williams
Wm. Williams
Lully Williams Wido.
James Williamson
Jno. Willson
George Winterbowa
Wm. Young 

Lena post forwarded from Charles Stubbs


Message body

Pattsy,
I don't know if Connie let you know about this or not. She has heard back
fromt he man doing our Key line with the Indian. I am just forwarding what
was said to you.  Now this is really getting exciting tho.
Thought you might like to read what Charles Stubbs wrote back to me.
Interesting! ! ! ! !
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Stubbs
To: carkeyt
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: KEY-WINKLES Family>

CC,       Been wondering where you were.  I tried to send you some things a year or so ago but always got them back.
A lot of people are looking for Eleanor Key and Eleanor Key's Husband as well.   I can't help much because I
always hit a dead end at Samuel Key and Mary Cockrell and I don't know much about Nancy Winkle.
However: All that being said,--------I don't think that a woman in the Civil War era could  have given  birth to that many illegitimate children and gotten away with it.  Bear in mind that the Keys had an annoying  habit of marrying each other.  For instance, my grandmother Mary (William R.--William--Samuel)  married her first cousin James (Thomas--William--Samuel), therefore, all her children were Keys maybe the same way as Eleanor's were.  Maybe Eleanor's husband was killed in the Civil War---Maybe she didn't have a husband at all---who will ever know?
You say the you descend from Jim C. Key.  I learned from a distant cousin in Mt. Pleasant, Texas that a multitude of Jim Keys came from the Marshall County, Alabama area at the same time and all were kin.
My Jim was "Poor Jim", the man from Mt. Pleasant dad was "Slim Jim", there was a "Rich Jim" , some more Jims, and finally, a "Black Jim"{ "Free Born", as in not African American, but probably Indian}  I will have to look this up, but I think this "Black Jim" married a Mattie Redden and I have some correspondence with someone kin to Redden but I have to find it.   I think this Jim Key is yours.  Any of this sound familiar? Let me know.
Charles Stubbs ---Canton , Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: carkeyt
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: KEY-WINKLES Family>

Mr. Stubbs,
   Eva Key Hicks gave me you address, in hopes you would be able to help me with this line..I am looking for information about Samuel KEY & Nancy ? WINKLES, daughter Eleanor(Ellen)KEY....Have been unable to locate a husband for her...All of her 6 children carried the KEY name.  My Grandfather James C."Jim" KEY was 1 of her 3 sons.  Thanks for any help..
CC
 
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From Larry Canterbury


FROM:
TO:
Friday, January 18, 2002 1:46 PM

Message body

Pattsy;
I just clicked on the link in this message and seen
the Sims colony in alabama it is a neat site. I guess
if the link don't work.  (the link didn't work anymore)
There is a John,a James, and a William in the Sims
colony. And info on them.
Well hope to hear from you soon
Lena
RE: Alexander Sims Marshall Co. Alabama before 1850
  Author: Ed Sims  Date: 11 Oct 2001 11:06 PM GMT
  Surnames: Sims, Kelley, Sampson, Mahan, Sorter,
Buchanan
  Classification: Query
  In Reply to: Re: Alexander Sims Marshall Co. Alabama
before 1850  by:  alice holder
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Hi Alice,
I don't much think we have a connection. I have
information on two William Sims and one James A. Sims.
The first William Sims homesteaded 40 acres of land in
northern Marshall County in 1859. He is too old for
your William. The second is William Nathan Sims born
1858 in Marshall County. He was the son of John
Alexander and brother of James Albert Sims. He married
Neaty Jane Buchanan. His decendants are pretty well
known, so I doubt he is the one. James Albert Sims was
my g grandfather. Born in 1851, he married (1)Nancy
Susan Ann Wilkerson in 1873, (2)Christian Ann Duvall
in 1882 after Susan died, (3)He married Deliah Lawson
in 1892 after Christan Ann died. There is quite a bit
of information about these Sims to be found at
http://1-800-csa.com Click on "Where did they live"
This is a mapped location of early homestead patents
in Marshall County. The county map will take a while
to load. It is big. Then clicking on any number in
blue will give details about that individual and the
homestead claim. Of course I will be glad to share any
information I have with you. Contact me at
edsims@htcomp.net




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Letter from Lena


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Pattsy,
I will say a prayer everyday you find our John there. That is the place to be
to find something. Hope you don't get to lost up there in that big place. I
will look to see what places I wanted to look and let you know. I do know I
am real curious about this John and Mahala Sims. And the John H. H. Sims that
moved to Jackson co.
I have been talking to Diana Rowe about our Johns and she says he was a lil
wild and crazy to. Her dad said her John had rode with Bell Star or some
outlaw and she is going to check on those records for John in the Arkansas
records. I think they are our John, one of ours at least. I didn't know you
were already talking to them and had invited them to the site already.
Well it is getting interesting again isn't. Helen says there are still alot
of Sims up there in Poteou I can't spell it? But still up there in the area.
I think I found a A.C. Sims buried in there close to Lequire I want to find
that again and check on him. I think it was Keota or something like that
cemetary. Thats the initials on my grandpas marriage record.
Sis has sent for marriage records from Haskell Co. She has Berthas right now
and Lizzies. I didn't see Bertha up at the site? You need another copy? Sis
has a scanner and will scan it to you if you ask her to. Her e-mail address
is lcanterbury7@yahoo.com. She says Lizzie and Bertha both spelled there name
Simms. And called Aunt Dee Lee and Aunt Dee Lee just says its a mistake?
Maybe it was Ellas she has I don't remember but she ordered all of them silly
girl. I told her alot of them are at the website.
Well you have fun in Salt lake ok. I will write you if I find anything good.
Lena

Letters from Lena


TO:
Friday, September 20, 2002 6:58 PM

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Pattsy,
Yea this Leonard Sims that married the Mahoney girl I sent you the query on
him well it was I think John Maroney had 3 wifes. And leonard married a
mahoney but then the other lady says she thought maybe her great grandma
Adeline might fit into the family so that made a Leonard and a Adeline. she
would still be an Aunt just not married to Lynn is all. That querry was
written by Debra Moorfield. so that is the same family I am saying I think we
belong to. Then I sent you the census record for this Leonard from the 1900
census and he has a son named Charlay.
I am just not spelling good tonight at all sorry hope you can catch what I am
saying still.
I will try to put the link up at the sites.
Lena