Catherine Key and the d/o Ellen Key
I am starting a genealogy blogspot for my Sims line. I am hoping to connect with others working on this line. My Great Grandfather John Sims came from Alabama to Oklahoma. He was born in May of 1860 He said in Guntersville, Marshall County Alabama. He married my great grandmother Catherine Key in 1885 I'll check this out for sure. If you are researching Sims in Alabama or elsewhere please join me here.
Tuesday, September 6, 2011
Some old photos
Josie is aka Joe Anna Sims born Alabama.
Sims Colony Info
Giles County, Tennessee
1809 Elk River Intruders
The Cherokee Land Session of 1806 resulted in a rash of new settlements in the newly-ceded territory, which included much of present-day Giles County, but continued to exclude most of the southwest quadrant still untreated with the Chickasaw. Nevertheless, many of the settlers were westward of the Congressional Reservation Line, resulting in a number of clashes between soldiers and settlers, the latter known as Intruders. (1)
Although the following is a compiled list and does not specify the settlement, a variety of records document that at least some of these men had settled in what would become Giles county rather than Alabama. Other sources (2) indicate that the first round-up by soldiers in 1809 netted 166 settlers, of whom 93 were from the Simms Settlement. As can be seen from the list that follows, a number of Giles countians were among those corraled by Meigs' soldiers, although many other intruders were not rounded up (estimated at 2,250 by Simms' Settlemeent petitioners in 1810). By September of the following year, at least 49 of the original Simms settlers, including five widows, had returned when 466 men and women petitioned the President to permit them to remain on their improvements pending the signing of a treaty with the Chickasaws (See 1810 Simms'es Settlement Petition)
Many of these names and those on the 1810 Elk River Intruder Petition are also on the 1812 Giles county tax list, and a sampling has been indicated by the use of the symbol † after the name.
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Lena post forwarded from Charles Stubbs
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Pattsy,
I don't know if Connie let you know about this or not. She has heard back
fromt he man doing our Key line with the Indian. I am just forwarding what
was said to you. Now this is really getting exciting tho.
I don't know if Connie let you know about this or not. She has heard back
fromt he man doing our Key line with the Indian. I am just forwarding what
was said to you. Now this is really getting exciting tho.
Thought you might like to read what Charles Stubbs wrote back to me.
Interesting! ! ! ! !
----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Stubbs
To: carkeyt
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: KEY-WINKLES Family>
CC, Been wondering where you were. I tried to send you some things a year or so ago but always got them back.
A lot of people are looking for Eleanor Key and Eleanor Key's Husband as well. I can't help much because I
always hit a dead end at Samuel Key and Mary Cockrell and I don't know much about Nancy Winkle.
However: All that being said,--------I don't think that a woman in the Civil War era could have given birth to that many illegitimate children and gotten away with it. Bear in mind that the Keys had an annoying habit of marrying each other. For instance, my grandmother Mary (William R.--William--Samuel) married her first cousin James (Thomas--William--Samuel), therefore, all her children were Keys maybe the same way as Eleanor's were. Maybe Eleanor's husband was killed in the Civil War---Maybe she didn't have a husband at all---who will ever know?
You say the you descend from Jim C. Key. I learned from a distant cousin in Mt. Pleasant, Texas that a multitude of Jim Keys came from the Marshall County, Alabama area at the same time and all were kin.
My Jim was "Poor Jim", the man from Mt. Pleasant dad was "Slim Jim", there was a "Rich Jim" , some more Jims, and finally, a "Black Jim"{ "Free Born", as in not African American, but probably Indian} I will have to look this up, but I think this "Black Jim" married a Mattie Redden and I have some correspondence with someone kin to Redden but I have to find it. I think this Jim Key is yours. Any of this sound familiar? Let me know.
Charles Stubbs ---Canton , Texas
----- Original Message -----From: carkeytSent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:32 AMSubject: KEY-WINKLES Family>Mr. Stubbs,Eva Key Hicks gave me you address, in hopes you would be able to help me with this line..I am looking for information about Samuel KEY & Nancy ? WINKLES, daughter Eleanor(Ellen)KEY....Have been unable to locate a husband for her...All of her 6 children carried the KEY name. My Grandfather James C."Jim" KEY was 1 of her 3 sons. Thanks for any help..CC
Sims Research
Pattsy: I presume this
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/d/e/c/Roberta-J-Decker/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0101.html
was posted by you? I can't see the document enough to tell whether
it's the wedding certificate you mention.
I found this by Googling his name.
Foy
>John H. Sims
More info from Lena
Late last night I found another Lynn Simms in Marshall Co. and I already
wrote to them and no reply yet. But I will forward what I found anyways could
be a clue for us. I also found a thing on the Sims community and where it was
located that was interesting will forward also. I will try to get that done
in the next couple days. Helen goes back to work tomorrow. I didn't know I
could write to this list but I am a member so I can write. Just get my words
down and I am going to be all over the place in there.
I have been disappointed no comments on the Purd key story, but Helen I
thought said there is. Is there? I have not seen no notice about it.
I am getting my lil notes together and going to make my son help me explain
the connection I see. That could help alot, I have a hard time explaining
myself sometimes. Especially if I get excited. Get my words mixed up and
everything then. He is smart, real smart and said if I put it together he
will explain it. That should happen pretty soon as I am working on it harder
now he promised that.
Well girl I just love you for all you share with all of us who didn't have a
clue on this family tree. I did just put together a package for you of things
I thought you might want to have on my family. John sims and Cathrine Keys
marriage cert will be in the mail tommorow. With the one Helen and i copied
in Oklahoma for him and Betty. Helen wrote on it as we didn't get a clear
copy but girl the signitures are the same as Alabama. I saw a clear copy on
the machine there. Sis has ordered a original and copis will be sent to you
of that one to.
Thank you thank you a thousand times thank you for the pictures and the info.
Lena
wrote to them and no reply yet. But I will forward what I found anyways could
be a clue for us. I also found a thing on the Sims community and where it was
located that was interesting will forward also. I will try to get that done
in the next couple days. Helen goes back to work tomorrow. I didn't know I
could write to this list but I am a member so I can write. Just get my words
down and I am going to be all over the place in there.
I have been disappointed no comments on the Purd key story, but Helen I
thought said there is. Is there? I have not seen no notice about it.
I am getting my lil notes together and going to make my son help me explain
the connection I see. That could help alot, I have a hard time explaining
myself sometimes. Especially if I get excited. Get my words mixed up and
everything then. He is smart, real smart and said if I put it together he
will explain it. That should happen pretty soon as I am working on it harder
now he promised that.
Well girl I just love you for all you share with all of us who didn't have a
clue on this family tree. I did just put together a package for you of things
I thought you might want to have on my family. John sims and Cathrine Keys
marriage cert will be in the mail tommorow. With the one Helen and i copied
in Oklahoma for him and Betty. Helen wrote on it as we didn't get a clear
copy but girl the signitures are the same as Alabama. I saw a clear copy on
the machine there. Sis has ordered a original and copis will be sent to you
of that one to.
Thank you thank you a thousand times thank you for the pictures and the info.
Lena
Info from Lena
Lena,
I contacted Donald Sinyard who is the host of the Sinyard Family Website to see about getting you an invitation to have access there. Research there might help you make contact with others who might know about your John Sinyard and J.D. Sinayrd.
I would very much like to have access to the Sims Family Website that you wrote about.
Here are the census results I found for SIMS in Gilmer County, GA (which is right next door to Paulding Co., GA).
U.S. Census of 1860, Gilmer Co., Georgia, Date: June 30, 1860, p. 35
Household 423, Family 383
William R. Sims, 46, miner/farmer, personal property value $100, place of birth unk
Rebecca M., wife, 35, place of birth unk
Nancy E., dau, 18, born in GA (all children born in GA)
Littleton L., son, 15,
Jonah M.R., son, 13
Francis B., son, 11
Livinia A., dau, 9
William J., son, 1
U.S. Census of 1860, Gilmer Co., GA, August 2, 1860, page 125
Household 989, Family 866
George W. Sims, 30, farmer, born in NC
Jane, wife, 29, born in GA
James M., son, 6, born in GA
Thomas A., son, 4, born in TN
Sarah A., dau, 2, born in GA
John H., son, 2 months old, born GA
I hope this is of some help. I would like to learn more about your William Samuel Sims and all your Alabama SIMS. I live in Burbank, and do all of my research at the Family History Center in Los Angeles. Let me know if you need any look-ups, as they have a tremendous collection of films, microfiche, and books.
Regards, Justin
I contacted Donald Sinyard who is the host of the Sinyard Family Website to see about getting you an invitation to have access there. Research there might help you make contact with others who might know about your John Sinyard and J.D. Sinayrd.
I would very much like to have access to the Sims Family Website that you wrote about.
Here are the census results I found for SIMS in Gilmer County, GA (which is right next door to Paulding Co., GA).
U.S. Census of 1860, Gilmer Co., Georgia, Date: June 30, 1860, p. 35
Household 423, Family 383
William R. Sims, 46, miner/farmer, personal property value $100, place of birth unk
Rebecca M., wife, 35, place of birth unk
Nancy E., dau, 18, born in GA (all children born in GA)
Littleton L., son, 15,
Jonah M.R., son, 13
Francis B., son, 11
Livinia A., dau, 9
William J., son, 1
U.S. Census of 1860, Gilmer Co., GA, August 2, 1860, page 125
Household 989, Family 866
George W. Sims, 30, farmer, born in NC
Jane, wife, 29, born in GA
James M., son, 6, born in GA
Thomas A., son, 4, born in TN
Sarah A., dau, 2, born in GA
John H., son, 2 months old, born GA
I hope this is of some help. I would like to learn more about your William Samuel Sims and all your Alabama SIMS. I live in Burbank, and do all of my research at the Family History Center in Los Angeles. Let me know if you need any look-ups, as they have a tremendous collection of films, microfiche, and books.
Regards, Justin
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